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	<title>Comments on: Lies, d&#8230; oh, forget it</title>
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	<description>Linux hacker, recovering mathematician, former athlete</description>
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		<title>By: WFTL Bytes! for Dec 12, 2008 &#124; WFTL Bytes!</title>
		<link>http://digitalvampire.org/blog/index.php/2008/04/11/lies-d-oh-forget-it/comment-page-1/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>WFTL Bytes! for Dec 12, 2008 &#124; WFTL Bytes!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How much is Cisco contributing? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How much is Cisco contributing? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Chapman</title>
		<link>http://digitalvampire.org/blog/index.php/2008/04/11/lies-d-oh-forget-it/comment-page-1/#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for clarifying that.  I wasn&#039;t paying attention to the facts.  Hey, maybe I should be a reporter.  

I feel better now, my faith in kernel development has been restored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for clarifying that.  I wasn&#8217;t paying attention to the facts.  Hey, maybe I should be a reporter.  </p>
<p>I feel better now, my faith in kernel development has been restored.</p>
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		<title>By: roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you misunderstood my post slightly, so I should clarify that I *do* work for Cisco, and so does Don Fry.  So our work is legitimately and correctly attributed as being sponsored by Cisco.  The point I was trying to make is that when you look at companies higher up on the Linux Foundation list, such as Red Hat, Novell, IBM, Intel, etc., you see that their contributions are coming from dozens of individuals working on many different things, so it is reasonable to view those companies as heavily engaged with the upstream Linux kernel process.

On the other hand, 90% of Cisco&#039;s contribution is coming from one developer (me), so were I to leave Cisco, then Cisco&#039;s contribution rate would drop to a negligible level, so it is probably wrong to view Cisco as being engaged with the kernel in the same &quot;corporate&quot; or &quot;strategic&quot; as other companies listed in the report.

By the way, for many reasons, I do believe that &quot;the ability to maintain remarkable composure in the face of outlandish insult&quot; is very useful for both kernel development and the rest of life....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you misunderstood my post slightly, so I should clarify that I *do* work for Cisco, and so does Don Fry.  So our work is legitimately and correctly attributed as being sponsored by Cisco.  The point I was trying to make is that when you look at companies higher up on the Linux Foundation list, such as Red Hat, Novell, IBM, Intel, etc., you see that their contributions are coming from dozens of individuals working on many different things, so it is reasonable to view those companies as heavily engaged with the upstream Linux kernel process.</p>
<p>On the other hand, 90% of Cisco&#8217;s contribution is coming from one developer (me), so were I to leave Cisco, then Cisco&#8217;s contribution rate would drop to a negligible level, so it is probably wrong to view Cisco as being engaged with the kernel in the same &#8220;corporate&#8221; or &#8220;strategic&#8221; as other companies listed in the report.</p>
<p>By the way, for many reasons, I do believe that &#8220;the ability to maintain remarkable composure in the face of outlandish insult&#8221; is very useful for both kernel development and the rest of life&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Chapman</title>
		<link>http://digitalvampire.org/blog/index.php/2008/04/11/lies-d-oh-forget-it/comment-page-1/#comment-447</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad for the work the Linux Foundation is doing but my knowledge of it is limited to what I read in the blogs.  Anything from a news site I scan with a wary eye.  If your numbers are true, and I have little doubt they are, then the record should be set straight.  It reinforces my concern that the Linux Foundation is dominated by corporate interests.  I welcome corporate involvement.  They need to be part of this too.  But I do not want to see Linux/Open Source become completely &quot;incorporated&quot;.

I didn&#039;t know that a required attribute for a kernel developer was the ability to maintain remarkable composure in the face of outlandish insult.  I hope this misappropriation of achievement gets corrected soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad for the work the Linux Foundation is doing but my knowledge of it is limited to what I read in the blogs.  Anything from a news site I scan with a wary eye.  If your numbers are true, and I have little doubt they are, then the record should be set straight.  It reinforces my concern that the Linux Foundation is dominated by corporate interests.  I welcome corporate involvement.  They need to be part of this too.  But I do not want to see Linux/Open Source become completely &#8220;incorporated&#8221;.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know that a required attribute for a kernel developer was the ability to maintain remarkable composure in the face of outlandish insult.  I hope this misappropriation of achievement gets corrected soon.</p>
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