{"id":97,"date":"2010-04-19T15:16:42","date_gmt":"2010-04-19T23:16:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/digitalvampire.org\/blog\/?p=97"},"modified":"2010-04-19T15:16:42","modified_gmt":"2010-04-19T23:16:42","slug":"rocky-roads","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/digitalvampire.org\/blog\/index.php\/2010\/04\/19\/rocky-roads\/","title":{"rendered":"Rocky roads"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I saw that the InfiniBand Trade Association announced the &#8220;<a title=\"RoCE\" href=\"http:\/\/infinibandta.org\/content\/pages.php?pg=press_room_item&amp;rec_id=663\">RDMA over Converged Ethernet (RoCE)<\/a>&#8221; specification today.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve <a title=\"RDMA on Converged Ethernet\" href=\"https:\/\/digitalvampire.org\/blog\/index.php\/2009\/03\/25\/rdma-on-converged-ethernet\/\">already discussed<\/a> my thoughts on the underlying technology (although I have a bit more to say), so for now I just want to say that I really, truly hate the name they chose.\u00a0 There are at least two things that suck about the name:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Calling the technology &#8220;RDMA over&#8221; instead of &#8220;InfiniBand over&#8221; is overly vague and intentionally deceptive.\u00a0 We already have &#8220;RDMA over Ethernet&#8221; &#8212; except we&#8217;ve been calling it iWARP.\u00a0 Choosing &#8220;RoCE&#8221; is somewhat like talking about &#8220;Storage over Ethernet&#8221; instead of &#8220;Fibre Channel over Ethernet.&#8221;\u00a0 Sure, FCoE is storage over ethernet, but so is iSCSI.\u00a0 As for the intentionally deceptive part: I&#8217;ve been told that &#8220;InfiniBand&#8221; was left out of the name because the InfiniBand Trade Association felt that InfiniBand is viewed negatively in some of the markets they&#8217;re going after.\u00a0 What does that say about your marketing when you are running away from your own main trademark?<\/li>\n<li>The term &#8220;Converged Ethernet&#8221; is also pretty meaningless.\u00a0 The actual technology has nothing to do with &#8220;converged&#8221; ethernet (whatever that is, exactly); the annex that was just release simply describes how to stick InfiniBand packets inside a MAC header and Ethernet FCS, so simply &#8220;Ethernet&#8221; would be more accurate.\u00a0 At least the &#8220;CE&#8221; part is an improvement over the previous try, &#8220;Converged Enhanced Ethernet&#8221; or &#8220;CEE&#8221;; not only does the technology have nothing to do with CEE either, &#8220;CEE&#8221; was an IBM-specific marketing term for what eventually became Data Center Bridging or &#8220;DCB.&#8221;\u00a0 (At Cisco we used to use the term &#8220;Data Center Ethernet&#8221; or &#8220;DCE&#8221;)<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>So both the &#8220;R&#8221; and the &#8220;CE&#8221; of &#8220;RoCE&#8221; aren&#8217;t very good choices.\u00a0 It would be a lot clearer and more intellectually honest if we could just call InfiniBand over Ethernet by its proper name: IBoE.\u00a0 And explaining the technology would be a bit simpler too, since the analogy with FCoE becomes a lot more explicit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I saw that the InfiniBand Trade Association announced the &#8220;RDMA over Converged Ethernet (RoCE)&#8221; specification today.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve already discussed my thoughts on [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,9],"tags":[11,12,18,19],"class_list":["post-97","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-infiniband","category-rdma","tag-dcb","tag-iboe","tag-infiniband","tag-rdma"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/digitalvampire.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/97","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/digitalvampire.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/digitalvampire.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/digitalvampire.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/digitalvampire.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=97"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/digitalvampire.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/97\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":629,"href":"https:\/\/digitalvampire.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/97\/revisions\/629"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/digitalvampire.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=97"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/digitalvampire.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=97"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/digitalvampire.org\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=97"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}